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Andreu Ubach
03:04:03
Does the Dennis et al. (2016) method represent an improvement to the Schmucki et al.' s Regional GAM method? Or they are basically the same?
dirk_maes
03:04:03
Thanks Reto, will check!
dirk_maes
03:04:38
I am doing everything in dplyr so I probably made a mistake somewhere ... :-D
Emily Dennis
03:07:14
Hi Andreu - it's a merge of the two really - describing phenology climatically as in Schmucki et al but using the more efficient Dennis et al method
Andreu Ubach
03:09:09
Thanks!
Martin Poot
03:19:52
Perhaps I am too quick, but in the European tend analysis within region is latitude taken into account when determining the flight phenology per species?
Chris
03:23:55
Within a climate region is assumed to be the same. As far as I know altitude is not included as well.
Emily Dennis
03:24:24
Yes that's right - although it would be possible.
Martin Poot
03:24:59
Would be worth to try?
Chris
03:25:45
As the climate regions are geographical (so the result of clustering), I guess the effect of altitude would be more important than latitude.
Chris
03:26:07
Or better: differences in altitude within a climate region
Roy, David B.
03:27:29
Our experience is that generally the small improvements to the flight period do not make much difference at the later stages of the GAI. But if flight periods are the main interest then it is worth complicating the model
Martin Poot
03:28:09
Ah, so you tested the potential improvements. Thanks.
Roy, David B.
03:29:07
Not formally, but it would good thing to do......maybe you have time :-)
Martin Poot
03:29:22
Ok, a challenge...
Martin Poot
03:29:43
...in Corona times.
Chris
03:30:00
:-)
Lars Pettersson
03:37:04
For those of us with a large latitude range, it would be interesting to hear a bit about how/when to take that into account (for instance, orange tip stops flying in mid June in the South and in late July up North
Roy, David B.
05:03:50
Thanks for the reminder about recording
MariaCyborg
05:04:32
Thank you!
Andras Szabadfalvi
05:05:49
When 2 visits (transect counts) fall on the same week (i.e. say Mon + Sun) >> you take it into account when preparing your data for analysis?
Roy, David B.
05:07:14
Emily or Reto can confirm but when working on weekly data and there are multiple visits then the average counts per species are taken
Chris
05:08:05
or you can work with TimeUnit = 'd'
Cristina G. Sevilleja
05:14:06
@Reto can you talk a bit louder?
Ozge Ozden
05:17:58
There was a problem when I was entering the transect data into our online data base. I can enter species names but I can not enter no of individuals for per species. I still have the data. So may be later I will contact with David Roy to help me with this. Because it is important to be able to analyse the abundance.
Roy, David B.
05:18:29
hi Ozge, shall we have a separate Zoom meeting to discuss?
Roy, David B.
05:18:57
Later this week?
Ozge Ozden
05:19:10
yes please
Ozge Ozden
05:21:52
Friday afternoon Cyprus time 15.00 is ok with me. If it is ok with you, I am happy to learn. So it is 13.00 UK time.
Roy, David B.
05:23:09
That is good for me, I will setup a Zoom and send you a link and appointment for that time. If anyone else wants a follow-up discussion about anything BMS-related we can also arrange
Ozge Ozden
05:24:46
Thank you so much.
Cristina G. Sevilleja
05:25:47
How is the weight of the data done exactly?
Roy van Grunsven
05:26:16
based on how well the flight season is covered by counts
Lars Pettersson
06:16:03
Q1 is the plan to include the workshop functions in embs or BRCindicators (i.e. to have them documented & vignetted)?
Ozge Ozden
06:16:21
It would be very good if we can get recordings. Because we can pause the recording and run R with our data easily. This was very nice, but some things it was too fast to catch up.
José Miguel Barea
06:17:25
I’m also interested into get recordings.
Lars Pettersson
06:17:34
Q2 I am still concerned about phenology, we have species that may have 3 generations in the South and one in the North. I am worried that the filtering against the flight curve might cut out or severely limit the Northern observations
Ozge Ozden
06:17:36
Also in some of the presentations there were some suggested papers we can read. Is it possible to send us list of important papers, so we can read later and learn.
Andras Szabadfalvi
06:19:52
Any in-depth studdy/knowledge on how well geographical regions work for the newly accessing BMS's? Eg. which new BMS's data can be used together (joined) to complement each other's data when calculating trends etc.?If not yet looked into: any plans to do it?
Ozge Ozden
06:22:10
It was very nice online workshop anyway. Very useful information on data analysis. Thanks a lot for making it possible.
dirk_maes
06:25:59
Great job Emily and Reto! Many thanks ...
martinasasic
06:26:51
yes well done!!! thanks
bfontaine
06:27:37
Yes, thank you for this workshop. Very useful, and a lot to process now !
Jurrien van Deijk
06:28:11
It was very usefull and I enjoyed it. Thanks!
Sarah Vray
06:29:15
Thank you very much for this useful workshop! :-)
Dafne Ram
06:29:27
Very happy I could join. Very useful, thank you!!
Martin Poot
06:29:49
It was very interesting. Thanks a lot! Pity of the Wagingen beer indeed.
Martin Wiemers
06:29:53
Thank you very much for organizing the workshop and preparing the material!
Lars Pettersson
06:29:57
Great workshop, many thanks!
Andras Szabadfalvi
06:29:59
Thank you all for the workshop >> it was useful and as smooth as it gets :-)
Friederike Barkmann
06:30:06
Thanks a lot!
Kata Pasztor
06:30:14
Thank you, it was really usefull!
Elli Tzirkalli
06:30:16
Thank you for this great workshop!
Alexia MONSAVOIR
06:30:20
Merci !! It was very overwhelming to learn and see people from all europe :)
Martin Wiemers
06:30:23
Would be good to have some follow up!
Adam Körösi
06:30:26
Many thanks
zff
06:30:31
Thank you very much! I am happy that I could join the meeting! Now I need to tame the functions and to become familar with them :-)
José Miguel Barea
06:30:39
Thank you very much. I’m hope to take part of this workshops. Now is time to put every thing in practice at home. Best regards!
Jelle van Zweden
06:30:42
Thanks! That was very good. Bye!
dina
06:30:43
Thanks for the great workshop! Super helpful:)
Andreu Ubach
06:30:48
Thanks a lot for everything!
Manfred PENDL
06:30:59
Thanks for the presentations!!
Federica Paradiso
06:31:16
thank you for everything! Really nice and useful meeting
Adam Körösi
06:32:19
The material uploaded on the website is very useful! thanks for your efforts 👍